WATCH THE VOLUME AT THE END STUPID TIKTOK CLOSE OUT SOUND !! FIXED
This is so fucking true. It seems the Engineers and Architects either don’t want to do their jobs OR are incapable of doing their jobs and probably a combination of both. DEI has reared its ugly head.
Tik Tok should identify itself with a warning: "At the end of this video there's a noise blast at 150 decibels louder than the preceding volume."
ReplyDeleteI will run it through an editor to get rid of it. Irish. ☘️
DeleteWatch with sound off; read captions.
DeleteTo Robert @3:30pm... I know TikTok has as many or more rights to free speech than a mere mortal, however, your suggestion, the go-along to get-along, is hastening the end of civility that's nothing but vapors at this point.
DeleteWhere I work, it's "We're supposed to be building 12 of these machines a day. How can we make sure they're ready for our customers if we don't have the right computer updates?"
ReplyDelete"Oh, don't worry, we'll fix that in rework."
-lg
My favorite "Instructions to Bidders" began: All pipe is to be constructed of a long hole surrounded by metal.
ReplyDeleteFrom my last job:
ReplyDeleteEngineering walk through;
You need to electrically bond the battery boxes.
Me:
Not on the prints.
Engineer;
All energized components must be bonded to the grounding riser.
Me;
DC doesn’t reference an earth ground.
Engineer:
It provides power, you need to bond it.
Me:
What size grounding electrode?
Engineer:
#4 copper in conduit.
Me:
Battery boxes not fastened in place, contract notes says no drilling outside of prime mover footprint due to imbedded conduits.
Engineer:
Locate boxes to avoid conduits.
Me:
Contract notes says engineering team places battery boxes. You need to scan decks and verify it’s safe to drill, and select anchor type and size.
Building owner.
The other gensets aren’t anchored,
Never mind.
Engineer:
Per latest walkthrough, boxes still not anchored or bonded.
You are in violation of your contract obligations…..
I feel your pain. I was HMFIC for multi-million $ construction projects for my employer inside and outside the USA for about a decade. Never saw that level of incompetence or "not my job" mentality so my guess is the people involved in what you describe never had shop class in grade school, never took apart a lawnmower engine and put it back together, their first cars were not junkers that had to be fixed before they could be put on the road.
DeleteRetired dumbass Civil Engineer here: I can't even tell you how many Friday evenings were ruined over my career trying to get actual work done, because I had to spend so much of my week responding to a blizzard of contractor RFI by holding their hand and leading them through specific plan, detail and specification sections that they supposedly were familiar enough with to bid the project, but were suddenly dumbfounded by when it came time to build it.
ReplyDeleteI would think the plans would have an FFL elevation, adn combined with the Architectural plans, the contractor should be able to say what the wall elevation is supposed to be. The video sounds more like the intent was to be clownish.
DeletePE/PLS here.
Mathew & Quartermaster - being on the subcontractor side, I can say that the most likely reason for the perceived hand holding is the increasing reluctance to accept design liability, probably due to the increased litigiousness of owners/developers and their legal teams. In my 30 yrs, C.Y.A. has become the main goal, unfortunately.
DeleteSomething as simple as stamping a submittal as "Reviewed" instead of "Approved", or leaving important guidance out of the specs and passing off the design responsibility to folks that don't even carry Professional Liability coverage. Decisions are made at lower levels with nothing but schedule in mind, and then the subs get torched in court. Don't forget, we hold the GC "harmless" regardless of how they direct the work and we must abide.
Florida is a nightmare due to HOAs and their counsels' frivolous 558 claims, it really takes the fun out of getting a beautifully designed project to the finish line just to be dragged into court years later for defects that may not even exist. All it takes is the claim, then the lawyers get paid and the HOA gets a few bucks to perform the maintenance they've ignored for years, meanwhile everybody's Mod Rate goes up and GL premiums skyrocket for no legitimate reason.
....and to add, regarding DEI: absolutely true, inexperienced (mostly unqualified, period) folks all the way from development down to tradesmen re-inventing the wheel based on feelings or influences far outside of construction...I shiiit you not. The mess(es) created from one inept individual create such delay and added cost for no good reason. And just try to speak up about it ...most times you can't, you'll end up in breach of contract for not following directives or sued by your employee, because they can!
DeleteUntil it Ain't
ReplyDeleteI was the manager of a app. 8,000 sq. ft. building project at Redstone Arsenal years ago. One of the bid requirements was that the building be built to be "soundproof". This was to prevent electronic listening devices from penetrating the walls, doors, and roof. Keep in as the contractor, we had to provide data on construction methods, types of doors/frames, etc. showing sound transmission class ratings, etc. with our proposal. Several weeks after winning the contract, my government POC calls me up and asks me to estimate a price to add thirty-one windows to the building. I threw out a hyper-inflated number. They approved the modification, and their building was no longer soundproof. Once again, our tax dollars hard at work.
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing POC is Point Of Contact, not Person Of Color?
ReplyDeleteOur Navy building wherein there was no-kidding Secret stuff had all the windows replaced with bricks to prevent the Rooskies from listening in. We were told our guys had sat in a van a quarter-mile away in town and recorded conversations happening in interior rooms. I'm sure those 31 windows were a security improvement.
The architect was not nearly gay or retarded enough.
ReplyDeleteI delt with a lot of that contractor will verify BS back in the day. It's nothing more than engineer and architect speak for: I'm not putting anything in writing that I can be held responsible for in a court of law. On the other hand, I did deal with a lot of engineers (electrical world) who were very good, knowledgeable and listened, about 50% of them. The rest of them, not so much.
ReplyDeleteWell stated. If it's not written, it cannot be produced in Discovery.
DeleteThat should be a red flag to avoid the job.
Steve
Sounds like cost plus job. I'm not bidding on it. Change orders would be all I get done 2 days of the week
ReplyDeleteRF Engineer here, I could not tolerate or navigate the office politics but was able to become the senior field engineer overseeing the building of earth station satellite stations and data centers. Hat-tip to Chuck Farley for being a mentor - transpose the first letters of his name, he was a RF genius. I lost count on the number of "pre-tested" systems I installed that could have never worked as the plumbing for the signal was all wrong. What made me the senior field engineer was my skill of troubleshooting and I was one of the few tech's with a BS in engineering. But what it boiled down to was that after 25 years I was back to being a construction worker but making bank.
ReplyDeleteI've been on both ends, ad as the Engineer that designed the crap, I always made sure to listen (when I could) to The People In The Trenches, because they know what needs to get done. Saved me and others lotsa grief and having to do it over...
ReplyDeleteThis. I work in marine design, and I'm amazed at engineers who don't understand the trades. I was even asked once why I would consider them in design. My gob was right smacked.
DeleteI offer a real world example of "the contractor shall verify..." in the Hyatt Regency walkway collapse.
ReplyDeleteSteve
What I took away from my (+,-) 50-years of dealing with engineers was, the more arrogant the engineer and the greater their claimed expertise with a given process or discipline, the less likely they were to be competent. I have worked with a few who were brilliant. A very few, but those guys, and one gal, answering to that description, were priceless.
ReplyDeleteToo many of the young engineers are ignorant in that they think their computer software like AutoCad has all the answers and are unwilling to go out into the field. They have the motto my software says this so it must be.
ReplyDeleteCheck out house plans on Pinterest. Most look like they were designed by nepotism factored summer interns.
ReplyDeleteWylie@1128:
DeleteAir conditioning guy told me he would never buy a house built by Habitat for Humanity as they get their plans from the internet; this was as he was installing AC on a HfH place AFTER construction was finished. Woulda been SO much easier to lay the pipe before the slab was poured. We HAD plans from a professional architect that were drawn up for free; HfH didn't use them.
AND, I told the HMFIC repeatedly during rough in that the client could not possibly use the shower since power wheelchairs don't jump over six inch sills. Cost them $10,000 and took a month to convert it from a fiberglass module to a roll-in.
Oh, the adjoining unit didn't have a drain for the bathtub. Plumbing inspector musta missed that...
WHY don't people listen?
Sure because hammer swinging high school dropouts are the most credible source around, lmao.
ReplyDeleteFace it,, egineers and architects are educated and actually produce designs that blue collars assemble.
I hope this is sarcasm.
DeleteIt is the truth. Smart people design and invent technology. Let's use welding as an example. Then blue collars learn how to use said technology and all of the sudden, they are the genius, haha. Same for truck drivers and every single blue collar trade.
DeleteDon't get me wrong, we need plumbers and electricians. They just aren't the smartest person in the room.