Yup! I've got a new stove coming this Friday. The old one's oven control valve gave up the ghost last week. The old one is 40+ years old, so it doesn't owe me anything. The new one is one of those new fangled ones with electronic ignition. So maybe I'll save a little on the gas bill. Only problem is I now have no alternative means of heat in the event of a power failure. Power around here is pretty reliable. However, when you need heat, you need it.
Yah, you can probably light the stove top burners with a match. I was told by the sales guy that was the case. I'm willing to bet you can't light the oven, which is what I've used in the past for heat when the power was out.
Would you want to have two to four stove top burners blaring an open flame trying to get some heat? I wouldn't. Yah, you could probably set big pans of water on top of them, but I'd estimate that's still not very safe from a CO perspective. At least with an oven set to 350 the fire turns on and off after the oven reaches temp and it gives nice even heat in the kitchen, sorta like a wood stove that you don't have to stoke every couple hours.
I do have two CO detectors. I'd rather not have them going off though.
So, any readers with a modern pilotless gas stove out there that has tried using it for heat during a power failure that can relate their experience on how to light the stove with no power?
We converted last summer from electric range to gas. It took me a couple hours to do the conversion from natural gas to propane, but all the parts were included. I was supposed to have the pro's from the gas company do the conversion, but I said "horse manure!" I don't enjoy a half century of mechanical work experience for nothing. As for using the range for heat when the power's out, No. The top burners will light with a match, but for heat we have a backup freestanding propane heater, certified for indoor ventless operation. I also have a dual detector for both CO and gas in the same room. I put it away in the attic because our primary heat source is a woodstove anyway. If you really want to use the gas oven for heat with the power out, you need an alternate 110v power source to plug the range into. It only takes a few watts to run the little stove's brain and operate the gas shutoff valve. I had to wire in a new 110v outlet for the new range because I didn't want to fool with trying to pull one leg of the old 220v electric stove outlet. It was easy enough to fish another leg down from the microwave/range hood above.
yes, during a several day power outage I used the stovetop for heat by placing all my cast iron cookwear on top and lighting the burners. Using an IR thermometer, I set the height of the flames to keep the iron radiating at 250 degrees. During a time when the outdoor temps were teens to twenties the interior stayed safely in the mid 50's. Just like a pot bellied wood stove.
I am happy to give up my gas stove. I'll start cooking using renewable energy. Once a week I'll go to city park to cut down a tree. I am therefore not giving up my gas-powered chainsaw.
I don't mind my electric stove, electric burner gets hotter than gas but maybe not as fast. And to get the gas to my kitchen will be almost unaffordable.
Being a good American I am more than willing to turn in my stove. It's electric and I want to get a new gas one anyway. Anyone know where I can mail my old stove to show how I am complying. After all, an electric range takes as much juice as an electric car charger so someone else can now plug their car in.
The Democrats used to say Republicans want to get into your bedrooms. Democrats have no compulsion about interfering in every OTHER room in your house and garage!
Although I wouldn't put it past these commies to do something intercontinental ballistic stupid, best explanation I heard was it was a feint, a distraction, to lead up to regulating the interior of your home.
The people that can not define a woman do not get to advise others at all on anything. I do not care if there is any letters after their name. Stupid is not in charge but it seems to think its advise is important.
when we moved up here in the hills, I put 2 new woodstoves in. one in the basement to keep the pipes warm and one in the living room. both have flat top that you can cook/heat stuff on. my neighbors thought I was nuts to do so. they all told me I needed/wanted a pellet stove. problem with that is, you need electric power to run them. and you can not really cook anything on them either. now that propane and fuel oil is up in price, they no longer think I was nuts . 2 winters ago, the power was out for close to 3 days around here. we where fine. I have 2 gensets and the wood stoves keep us warm and with hot food and coffee. although, the stove is electric and the hot water heater along with the dryer. thinking of changing the stove and water heater for propane when they go.
Gets worse…Canadian researchers published a study saying we need to make diet changes INCLUDING reducing Coffee intake. “Traditional” coffee brewing has a greater carbon footprint than coffee pods. Guns, stoves, now coffee!!!! Irish and everyone, ya gotta get the word out on this one!!!!
Yup! I've got a new stove coming this Friday. The old one's oven control valve gave up the ghost last week. The old one is 40+ years old, so it doesn't owe me anything. The new one is one of those new fangled ones with electronic ignition. So maybe I'll save a little on the gas bill. Only problem is I now have no alternative means of heat in the event of a power failure. Power around here is pretty reliable. However, when you need heat, you need it.
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You can still light them with a match.
DeleteYou can light the burners with a match or lighter when power is out. Hybo
DeleteMaybe as most modern gas stoves have a safety to keep the gas off if the power is off.
DeleteYah, you can probably light the stove top burners with a match. I was told by the sales guy that was the case. I'm willing to bet you can't light the oven, which is what I've used in the past for heat when the power was out.
DeleteWould you want to have two to four stove top burners blaring an open flame trying to get some heat? I wouldn't. Yah, you could probably set big pans of water on top of them, but I'd estimate that's still not very safe from a CO perspective. At least with an oven set to 350 the fire turns on and off after the oven reaches temp and it gives nice even heat in the kitchen, sorta like a wood stove that you don't have to stoke every couple hours.
I do have two CO detectors. I'd rather not have them going off though.
So, any readers with a modern pilotless gas stove out there that has tried using it for heat during a power failure that can relate their experience on how to light the stove with no power?
Nemo
We converted last summer from electric range to gas. It took me a couple hours to do the conversion from natural gas to propane, but all the parts were included. I was supposed to have the pro's from the gas company do the conversion, but I said "horse manure!" I don't enjoy a half century of mechanical work experience for nothing.
DeleteAs for using the range for heat when the power's out, No. The top burners will light with a match, but for heat we have a backup freestanding propane heater, certified for indoor ventless operation. I also have a dual detector for both CO and gas in the same room. I put it away in the attic because our primary heat source is a woodstove anyway.
If you really want to use the gas oven for heat with the power out, you need an alternate 110v power source to plug the range into. It only takes a few watts to run the little stove's brain and operate the gas shutoff valve. I had to wire in a new 110v outlet for the new range because I didn't want to fool with trying to pull one leg of the old 220v electric stove outlet. It was easy enough to fish another leg down from the microwave/range hood above.
yes, during a several day power outage I used the stovetop for heat by placing all my cast iron cookwear on top and lighting the burners. Using an IR thermometer, I set the height of the flames to keep the iron radiating at 250 degrees. During a time when the outdoor temps were teens to twenties the interior stayed safely in the mid 50's.
DeleteJust like a pot bellied wood stove.
just put in a new valve
DeleteI am happy to give up my gas stove. I'll start cooking using renewable energy.
ReplyDeleteOnce a week I'll go to city park to cut down a tree. I am therefore not giving up my gas-powered chainsaw.
people that are stupid enough to think a man can get pregnant will be stupid enough to not know if your stove is gas or electric.
ReplyDeleteI don't mind my electric stove, electric burner gets hotter than gas but maybe not as fast. And to get the gas to my kitchen will be almost unaffordable.
ReplyDeleteBeing a good American I am more than willing to turn in my stove. It's electric and I want to get a new gas one anyway. Anyone know where I can mail my old stove to show how I am complying. After all, an electric range takes as much juice as an electric car charger so someone else can now plug their car in.
ReplyDeleteThe Democrats used to say Republicans want to get into your bedrooms. Democrats have no compulsion about interfering in every OTHER room in your house and garage!
ReplyDeleteAlthough I wouldn't put it past these commies to do something intercontinental ballistic stupid, best explanation I heard was it was a feint, a distraction, to lead up to regulating the interior of your home.
ReplyDeleteThe people that can not define a woman do not get to advise others at all on anything. I do not care if there is any letters after their name. Stupid is not in charge but it seems to think its advise is important.
ReplyDeletewhen we moved up here in the hills, I put 2 new woodstoves in. one in the basement to keep the pipes warm and one in the living room. both have flat top that you can cook/heat stuff on. my neighbors thought I was nuts to do so. they all told me I needed/wanted a pellet stove. problem with that is, you need electric power to run them. and you can not really cook anything on them either. now that propane and fuel oil is up in price, they no longer think I was nuts . 2 winters ago, the power was out for close to 3 days around here. we where fine. I have 2 gensets and the wood stoves keep us warm and with hot food and coffee. although, the stove is electric and the hot water heater
ReplyDeletealong with the dryer. thinking of changing the stove and water heater for propane when they go.
When the government bans gas ovens, only the government will have gas ovens
ReplyDeleteGets worse…Canadian researchers published a study saying we need to make diet changes INCLUDING reducing Coffee intake. “Traditional” coffee brewing has a greater carbon footprint than coffee pods. Guns, stoves, now coffee!!!! Irish and everyone, ya gotta get the word out on this one!!!!
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