Wednesday, May 13, 2020
You Can't Change The Past...
The Virus is out.
Bioweapon or Lab Experiment?
Planned or Accidental Release?
Extremely Deadly or Bad Flu?
Shutdown or Herd Immunity?
What to believe.
Right now that past is what it is. It cannot be changed.
The present is.
The future?
As all the puzzle pieces are being turned over and exposed, so, what is "THEIR" long game?
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AS you suggest, I pose a similar question: What event or invention changes this? Are we to be shut down until it is "safe" to be within six feet of each other as thousands lose their jobs? If people think a vaccine is the answer, how effective has the flu vaccine been? Don't think for a microsecond that I am anti vaccine, but is that a solution to this? Just for sport, could someone correlate the people who contracted Covid 19 with people who received a flu shot? Has anyone looked at that? It seems the worst place to be now is a nursing home as most of the deaths seem concentrated there.
ReplyDeleteI sure don't know what will change so that people can go back to making a living. All of the machine shops I know are still busy, which is a good indication of the value that they always provide. Anyone in a business that some two bit politician deemed non essential must be going crazy or bankrupt or both.
Anyone got any ideas?
The c19 was released from the wuhan lab, the evidence is that the CCP knew in october it happened. They rushed through a national flu shot early december.
DeleteThis appears accidental that numerous groups took advantage of to try and use for their own purposes.. though some days it does appear as if it is a co-ordinated attack its a little too disorganized.
The only solution to this is to stand up and hold the idiot politicians responsible for the crap they are pulling and prosecute the scientists who knew their models were shit yet pushed them for political reasons.
Exile1981
As to putting people with Kung Flu into nursing home/veterans homes, whoever was responsible for that decision needs to do jail. That policy was aimed DEAD CENTER at eliminating old people.
ReplyDeleteVaccine? The average flu vaccine effectivity is ~40% and the major reason I refuse to have flu shot every year and especially in light of the fact that even your Doctor can't (because he doesn't know and isn't interested in finding out) tell you WHAT FLU STRAINS the vaccine is designed to protect against.
Where's the vaccine for SARS? SARS is almost 20 years old. There's NO VACCINE. How about MERS? 8years old. NO VACCINE. Common Cold - thousands of years old, no vaccine. What about AIDS? It's been around since the 70's in large numbers, yes confined primarily to the gay community, yet highly contagious. NO VACCINE.
I'm betting that despite the millions, perhaps BILLIONS, of dollars that are going to be poured into Kung Flu virus research, no effective vaccine will be found. Other therapy's may be developed beyond the couple that exist now, but there's not going to be an immunity granting virus killer found. The only way that immunity will be effected is harvesting anti-bodies from previously infected people THAT SURVIVED and inoculating OTHERS with the HARVESTED ANTI-BODIES. Do I need to relate ALL of the pitfalls of other disease transmission that may occur with that plan, never mind the expense of the therapy?
Look, I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV. I'm just extrapolating observations of my own interactions with "medical professionals" for over 70 years, most of which have been negative and what I read, in layman's terms, about the state of research for some diseases.
I hope I'm wrong about Kung Flu, but I don't think I will be.
Nemo
It was the rope back in '45.
DeleteThe long game isn't what happened.
ReplyDeleteI think the Trans Pacific Plague was intended as a dry run, but it blew up in their faces. Countries don't trust the Reds anymore, the Chinese middle class is going to take a major hit, the Demos have let their true colors show and, yes, I think some of our gauleiters and their commissars saw it as a chance to thin the herd.
If they survive all this (and I don't think that happens*), they'll be a lot more careful, if there is a next time.
* The Reds' days are no longer an economic power.
The Reds' days as rules of China are probably numbered.
The Demos' days as reliable rulers as much of America are even more closely numbered.
It does not matter. The fact hat we have moved our manufacturing overseas to China, including our Pharma industry, is so much more worrying. And, unfortunately, once this has been cleared, Americans will forget he issues with have had with the Chinese and go about their daily...whatever the fuck we do. Industry will not change and the status quo will reign.
ReplyDeleteWhat the fuck are we turning over to our kids and grandkids? I am not that old but the America I grew up in is no longer here. It has been replaced by something I do not recognize.
I don't think so.
DeleteThis farce has hurt a lot of people and a lot of kids have been exposed to it. This is how times change.
If it affects enough people, something happens.
Prosecuting scientists is a bit troublesome - mistakes are made all the time - but IF the scientists can be proven to have intentionally and deliberately created and promoted studies with known flaws, then that's another issue altogether.
ReplyDeleteThe long game appears to be the destruction of the US and create a socialist utopia. Cull the tall poppies via Cloward-Piven strategy.
The Wuhan Virus scare is a trial run, and it's been successful. The reactions to the next fluare going to be much worse.
I agree about the dry run, but if it's a victory, it's a Pyrrhic one for the Lefties and the Reds.
Delete"is it future??......is it past??"
ReplyDeleteAs soon as you think you've got it figured out, you're wrong.
ReplyDeleteIt's a horribly complex problem.
Expert A with unintelligible data espouses scenario A and expert B with equal amounts of data espouses the opposite scenario. Which is right?
Short of posessing a degree in the same field as the (contradicting...) experts,the layman has little chance.
Even then the single field of expertise is an example of fundamentally flawed linear thinking. ie everything in reality is intricately interwoven with everything else. eg a virus lockdown affects jobs and the economy which in turn affects peoples health which in turn makes them more susceptible to the virus! Don't see that in an epidemiology textbook.
What we do know (hopefully) however is history, cycles,human nature and reality. We can then estimate with high accuracy what is in fact real.
Short of a whistleblower or incontrovertible data that's all we have.
I have my beliefs and data.
I believe it came from the Wuhan lab.
It was gain of function enhanced.
It was an accidental release.
It was not developed as a weapon but the gain of function changes make it resemble one.
I hope and expect for some serious evidence soon and will post if and when.
Please keep us posted ZD. My email is on the sidebar if you wish to send post I can put up for you.
DeleteAsian Flu, 1957.
ReplyDeleteHong Kong Flu 1969.
SARS
MERS
Coronavirus
All from China.
See a pattern?
China wants to dominate the world and they dont care if it takes 300 years to do it