Not my idea; but I would be OK with compromise Split the difference to the middle half hour then stop the twice a year change BS . What to do with 1 (ONE) conversion 30 minutes?. Whatever the Hell you want to do. We can handle it. Just remember there may be consequences so a power nap might be a good suggestion. No one will remember it's not the top of the hour in day or so.
Seriously, 30 minutes? Put down the bottle. The entire WORLD runs on the top of the hour, and while we have managed with the hour off crap forever, 30 minutes is truly insane. Standard time ONLY. At NOON the sun should be at its highest point. Period.
Newfoundland has a half-hour time difference because it was historically a separate dominion that established its own time zone, choosing to set its standard time at UTC−03:30. This unique offset reflects its geographical location and historical context, making it the only place in North America with a half-hour deviation from Coordinated Universal Time.
Copy and pasted from Duck Duck Go Search Assist. No, I don't live in Newfoundland, but I have been there a couple of times.
In Eastern Newfoundland summer, the sun comes up around 3:30AM and doesn't set until after 9:00pm. Conversely in the dead of winter it rises at 9:00AM and sets around 3:30PM. At least that's what I remember after serving there through 2 and a half winters and two summers back in the mid 60's. Dunno if that's accurate. Brains getting foggier with each passing year.
Would somebody please tell the Feds there is no such time as 12:00AM or 12:00PM? It's NOON or MIDNIGHT just like you were taught in grade school. They wanna be in charge but don't know how to tell time. Drives me nuts. I wonder what the time/freq standard guys at NIST think. Related: more than one of my UW-Madison student co-workers are unable to read an analog clock or fill out a paper check. We're doomed.
it's always been twelvehundred and twentyfourhundred in my house. at least after my teenage sister pulled the "you said twelve o clock!" thing when coming home at midnight instead of noon...
Just to keep y'all straight I asked Grok how many days a year is the sun directly overhead at 12 Noon?
"The Sun is directly overhead (at the zenith) at solar noon only on specific days, and this depends entirely on your latitude on Earth.
This phenomenon occurs only within the tropics — between approximately 23.5°N (Tropic of Cancer) and 23.5°S (Tropic of Capricorn). Outside these latitudes (e.g., most of the United States, Europe, Canada, etc.), the Sun is never directly overhead at any time of year, so the answer is 0 days. At the equator (0° latitude): The Sun is directly overhead at solar noon twice per year, on the two equinoxes (around March 20–21 and September 22–23). At the Tropic of Cancer (≈23.5°N): It happens once per year, on the June solstice (around June 20–21). At the Tropic of Capricorn (≈23.5°S): It happens once per year, on the December solstice (around December 21–22). At any latitude strictly between the two tropics (but not exactly on the equator or the tropics themselves): It happens twice per year — once as the Sun's declination moves northward and once as it moves southward — on the two dates when the Sun's declination exactly matches that latitude. These are known as "zero shadow days" (or Lāhainā Noon in Hawaii), when vertical objects cast no shadow at solar noon.
In practice, due to the continuous daily motion of the Sun's position (declination changes gradually), the Sun is exactly overhead on exactly two days per year for most tropical locations (or one day at the extreme tropics), but never on more than that.
The question doesn't specify a location, but the most common interpretation (especially when people ask generally) refers to equatorial or tropical contexts, where the answer is two days a year. For most people on Earth, it's zero. If you're asking about a specific place (like near Canton, Texas, at ≈32.5°N), it's zero days — the Sun never gets that high."
FWIW, I like Daylight Savings Time and don't have an issue with the time change. But that's just me. YMMV.
I find it totally absurd that anyone would bitch and moan about "losing an hour of sleep" and "not being able to recover." I say, go to bed an hour earlier and wake up at the normal time. There, it's fixed in one night.
F the government. So sick of this twice a year bullshit.
ReplyDeleteSomething else for which you can thank Franklin Roosevelt, much like withholding.
DeleteNot my idea; but I would be OK with compromise Split the difference to the middle half hour then stop the twice a year change BS . What to do with 1 (ONE) conversion 30 minutes?. Whatever the Hell you want to do. We can handle it. Just remember there may be consequences so a power nap might be a good suggestion. No one will remember it's not the top of the hour in day or so.
ReplyDeleteExactly, spring ahead 30 mins one last time. Then no more daylight savings.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, 30 minutes? Put down the bottle. The entire WORLD runs on the top of the hour, and while we have managed with the hour off crap forever, 30 minutes is truly insane. Standard time ONLY. At NOON the sun should be at its highest point. Period.
ReplyDeleteNewfoundland has a half-hour time difference because it was historically a separate dominion that established its own time zone, choosing to set its standard time at UTC−03:30. This unique offset reflects its geographical location and historical context, making it the only place in North America with a half-hour deviation from Coordinated Universal Time.
DeleteCopy and pasted from Duck Duck Go Search Assist.
No, I don't live in Newfoundland, but I have been there a couple of times.
India runs on the half hour... we should be more like India....
DeleteIn Eastern Newfoundland summer, the sun comes up around 3:30AM and doesn't set until after 9:00pm. Conversely in the dead of winter it rises at 9:00AM and sets around 3:30PM. At least that's what I remember after serving there through 2 and a half winters and two summers back in the mid 60's. Dunno if that's accurate. Brains getting foggier with each passing year.
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Just more stoopid sh&t to control us plebs. SAFTOAOI
ReplyDeleteFirst I'd heard. Muchas Gracies.
ReplyDeleteGlad I checked in today, almost forgot.
ReplyDeleteWould somebody please tell the Feds there is no such time as 12:00AM or 12:00PM? It's NOON or MIDNIGHT just like you were taught in grade school. They wanna be in charge but don't know how to tell time. Drives me nuts. I wonder what the time/freq standard guys at NIST think.
ReplyDeleteRelated: more than one of my UW-Madison student co-workers are unable to read an analog clock or fill out a paper check. We're doomed.
it's always been twelvehundred and twentyfourhundred in my house. at least after my teenage sister pulled the "you said twelve o clock!" thing when coming home at midnight instead of noon...
DeleteJust to keep y'all straight I asked Grok how many days a year is the sun directly overhead at 12 Noon?
ReplyDelete"The Sun is directly overhead (at the zenith) at solar noon only on specific days, and this depends entirely on your latitude on Earth.
This phenomenon occurs only within the tropics — between approximately 23.5°N (Tropic of Cancer) and 23.5°S (Tropic of Capricorn). Outside these latitudes (e.g., most of the United States, Europe, Canada, etc.), the Sun is never directly overhead at any time of year, so the answer is 0 days.
At the equator (0° latitude): The Sun is directly overhead at solar noon twice per year, on the two equinoxes (around March 20–21 and September 22–23).
At the Tropic of Cancer (≈23.5°N): It happens once per year, on the June solstice (around June 20–21).
At the Tropic of Capricorn (≈23.5°S): It happens once per year, on the December solstice (around December 21–22).
At any latitude strictly between the two tropics (but not exactly on the equator or the tropics themselves): It happens twice per year — once as the Sun's declination moves northward and once as it moves southward — on the two dates when the Sun's declination exactly matches that latitude. These are known as "zero shadow days" (or Lāhainā Noon in Hawaii), when vertical objects cast no shadow at solar noon.
In practice, due to the continuous daily motion of the Sun's position (declination changes gradually), the Sun is exactly overhead on exactly two days per year for most tropical locations (or one day at the extreme tropics), but never on more than that.
The question doesn't specify a location, but the most common interpretation (especially when people ask generally) refers to equatorial or tropical contexts, where the answer is two days a year. For most people on Earth, it's zero. If you're asking about a specific place (like near Canton, Texas, at ≈32.5°N), it's zero days — the Sun never gets that high."
FWIW, I like Daylight Savings Time and don't have an issue with the time change. But that's just me. YMMV.
I find it totally absurd that anyone would bitch and moan about "losing an hour of sleep" and "not being able to recover." I say, go to bed an hour earlier and wake up at the normal time. There, it's fixed in one night.
ReplyDeleteJEEZ!!!
Here in AZ we dont have to deal with the stoopid!
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