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Just in case the video disappears from twatter:
Here is the article from, yes, the New Yawk Times...
Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be.
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In the article they do recommend more testing, BUT the current testing seems to be extremely flawed.
The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious.
This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are.
In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.
On Thursday, the United States recorded 45,604 new coronavirus cases, according to a database maintained by The Times. If the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide, then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may actually need to isolate and submit to contact tracing.
One solution would be to adjust the cycle threshold used now to decide that a patient is infected. Most tests set the limit at 40, a few at 37. This means that you are positive for the coronavirus if the test process required up to 40 cycles, or 37, to detect the virus.
Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left, Dr. Mina said.
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Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive, agreed Juliet
Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. “I’m
shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive,”
she said.
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The
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it is examining the use
of cycle threshold measures “for policy decisions.” The agency said it
would need to collaborate with the F.D.A. and with device manufacturers
to ensure the measures “can be used properly and with assurance that we
know what they mean.”
The C.D.C.’s own calculations suggest that it is extremely difficult to detect any live virus in a sample above a threshold of 33 cycles.
Officials at some state labs said the C.D.C. had not asked them to note
threshold values or to share them with contact-tracing organizations.
For
example, North Carolina’s state lab uses the Thermo Fisher coronavirus
test, which automatically classifies results based on a cutoff of 37
cycles. A spokeswoman for the lab said testers did not have access to
the precise numbers.
This amounts to an enormous missed opportunity to learn more about the disease, some experts said.
“It’s
just kind of mind-blowing to me that people are not recording the C.T.
values from all these tests — that they’re just returning a positive or a
negative,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University
in New York.
“It would be useful
information to know if somebody’s positive, whether they have a high
viral load or a low viral load,” she added.
OMFG, further evidence its all been one great big giant scam???
ReplyDeleteShocked, SHOCKED I SAY!!!
Are they saving DNA from those swabs?
ReplyDeleteBecause they ARE recording your contact information.
Hmmmm...
The late Kary Mullis, the INVENTOR of the PCR test stated that it shouldn't be used by itself as a diagnostic tool as it would give too many false positives. It should only be used when there are already other indicators that the person is sick.
ReplyDeleteNot to be too simplistic, but why isn't the test result color coded to indicate viral load? This test is done by some machine that should be able to calculate viral load. Better yet, why is there any "amplification" at all. Yah, yah, I know, without "amplification" there would be a lot of false negatives with people walking around carrying/spreading virus, since asymptomatic infection is a recognized phenomenon. So, which is worse?
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Anon, I think the load level would be shown by reporting the CT.
ReplyDeleteA really high Ct would also show that you've had the virus and recovered, wouldn't it? But keeping count of recoveries isn't something that most states or counties want done.
It seems that the fig leaf is slipping. Gotta wonder what kind of play will be allowed this information?
ReplyDeleteI'm sure the fact that the hospitals that show a positive 'hit' on the COVID test receiving federal $$$$ has absolutely nothing to do with how they amplify the testing. Perish the thought!
ReplyDeleteIn electronics, when you amplify a signal too much you get... saturation.
ReplyDeleteAnd so it is with the PCR test when it's "amplified" (or cycled) enough, you get similar results.
Statistics don't lie, but you can lie with statistics.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1302360380002332672
ReplyDeleteBet Bubba wishes he had Covid from the look on his face. Bubba had better cool it with the snide looks, he might wind up like all the others. Of course after living with Hildabeast after all these years he might be looking forward to it.
...and to totally destroy the deadly virus lie everyone please read this:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rt.com/op-ed/500000-covid19-math-mistake-panic/
So... now that this global deadly virus is PROVEN to be no worse than a bad flu season what happens next?
I'm forwarding info to local news tv and hope it goes to air. Sky news is way better than others for integrity.
Unreal.
DeleteNoo Yak Slimes, who'd a thunk it? Doesn't mean it's legit, but sure sounds like it is...
ReplyDeleteSCAMDEMIC
ReplyDeleteFast forward to November 2020:
ReplyDeleteHow many cycles (i.e., mail-in ballot recounts) will be required to detect a Biden victory?
Fast forward to November 2020:
ReplyDeleteHow many cycles (i.e., mail-in ballot recounts) will be required to detect a Biden victory?
Fast forward to November 2020:
ReplyDeleteHow many cycles (i.e., mail-in ballot recounts) will be required to detect a Biden victory?
So you're saying they lie to us? I don't believe it. Nope. Not me. Uhuh. I'm not fallin' for that melarky. Not me. Nope....
ReplyDeleteJoe
https://theviewfromladylake.blogspot.com/
Did I just read some decent reporting in the NYT? OMG, hell has frozen over.
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