SmokeyJazz, long time lurker here at TFI sent the following:
Hey Irish,
Back in the mid 90's, I was part of Joint Task Force-Full Accounting (JTF-FA), based out of Camp Smith, Hawaii. Each Southeastern country (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia) would have there own dedicated investigative teams. I was assigned to one of four investigation teams for Vietnam. After researching each loss for the upcoming iteration we would spend about three to four weeks in country tracking down the actual loss site and interviewing any in-country witness to the loss event. If we could identify a possible burial site, we would either dig a test site or report it for future possible recovery. While our teams were conducting the investigation side of the house, Central Identification Laboratory, Hawaii (CILHI), would conduct a couple recovery sites identified previously.
Though my career field was Operational Intelligence, everyone in the military is dual hatted. I was sent to our detachment in Hanoi to help out the Logistics and Finance side. Everything from inspecting equipment used for recovery sites to working the C-130's out of Thailand for supply drops. Worst part was taking the paper bill from the Vietnam government and transferring it to MS Excel (yes, Excel will drop a penny here and there). We paid the Vietnam government around a mil per Iteration and there was six per year.
I feel lucky do be doing this at it upheld the military's promise for full accounting and if possible, to bring you home. While in Hanoi, I was able to visit the crashed B-52 within the city and also Hanoi Hilton before they tore it down (still have a brick from the prison with is currently on loan to VFW post). Things that haunt me is to this day my medical records have cover sheets stating I've been exposed to Agent Orange, Japanese Encephalitis, and a few others. I guess if I start looking like the three-eye fish on the Simpson's, I know why.
Any who, long story short, I took the two attached photo's while providing logistical support during a repatriation of remains from Hanoi, Vietnam. The ceremony is extremely quiet and you will notice the U.S. flags are not draped over the coffins. That is because we had not re-established diplomatic relations yet and Viet government would not allow us to unfurl the flags on the tarmac. This was completed after the ceremony when everything was being button-up for departure. The wooden boxes the solider is saluting is the actual box the Vietnam government provides to us with the remains. This will be transferred to the metal coffins in picture #1. I attended six Repat Ceremonies i Hanoi, but never had the chance to participate since I was working logistics and was kept busy before and after the ceremony and was covered with sweat, fuel and other who knows what by the end. Was able to click a few photos for my memory of what I was part of. Please use photos if you want, just wanted to provide to people who care and for them to remember that freedom cost more than just money and equipment, and some of us will never forget.
It was my honor to serve our fallen comrades in such a manner and to hopefully bring rest to their grieving families. I pass around these two photos to either ex-military or to individuals who have a strong desire to support the true reason behind Memorial Day. May God bless and your family, keep up the great job on your site.
Thank You for your service in those recovery efforts Smokey and Thank You Irish for posting this.
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Nemo
May God Bless us all and especially our troops and Veterans and all their family
ReplyDeleteWhat Bear Claw says!
Deleteps Thank you SmokeyJazz. We won’t know the history if no one tells it.
ReplyDeleteWow. Never thought about the recovery end. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteThank you Irish.
ReplyDeleteSmokeyJazz, thanks for what you did. The results meant a lot to the families and, by extension, it meant a lot to those of us who were watching from afar. Also, thanks Irish for posting this.
ReplyDeleteS/F, Steve
Slow hand salute. Welcome Home, Gentlemen. Sez 1st ANGLICO
ReplyDeleteStanding aside you 1st Anglico and presenting the slow hand salute with honor. I was associated with recovery teams in Bosnia. My job was to investigate suspicious American and Allied deaths and to assist recovery if possible under battlefield conditions.
DeleteBlessings.
DeleteCederq, back at you. Thanks for your sacrifice. Folks, anytime you see a Vietnam Vet, please, shake their hand and say simply, “Welcome Home”. Such a simple greeting we never heard or received. Sez, 1st ANGLICO class of 71’
DeleteThe Vietnamese refused to allow us to drape our dead with an American flag? May they all burn in Hell forever........
ReplyDeleteIt was their ballparkm their rules. Doesn't male it right, though.
DeleteStill hurts.
Thank you Smokey Joe for sharing. Thanks for all you and others did. Thanks Irish for posting. I haven't heard the name Camp Smith in decades. I was stationed at K-Bay back in 78. Semper Fi. Will pass this on to some Nam Vets I know.
ReplyDeleteI Honor all that serve for the freedom we have today, Thank God for the Brave ones, continue to support the families they left behind.Thanks to my son who served in the U S Navy Herman Manns and Herman Toomer Air Force brother. LOVE
ReplyDeleteWow. I had no idea anything so important was being done.
ReplyDeleteThank you.
Sobering.
ReplyDeleteRespect to all involved.
Thank you for the remembrance SJ. And you too Irish. Well done.
ReplyDeleteSmokeyJazz, Thank You for your what you've done. I Salute You.
ReplyDeleteRespectfully, Snafu573
God Bless our boys! Slow salute!
ReplyDeleteTom762
thank you sir for your service
ReplyDeleteThank you for your service. Small words, HUGE IMPACT. Your work, and your contribution to the families of the ones who gave ALL, bless you, and your comrades. A little dusty in here, sir. To you, Sharp Salute. Slow Salute to those who didn't come back. YET
ReplyDeletethank you so much for your service for truth, justice, and the American way
ReplyDeleteSmokey, I am really glad you shared your experience here as this is the first time I have heard of the other teams that were doing this also. I was a part of a JTF-FA group that was in Cambodia during the early 90's, we were the Marine helicopters that flew the investigative teams around to the villages and other sites. I was a crewchief on one of the CH-46's and we were up and down the border between Cambodia and Vietnam. It was one of the most amazing and humbling experiences of my 10 years in the Marine Corps. We were able to reclassify a few cases from MIA to KIA due to our findings so the families could have closure. My second trip was cut short when the Khmer Rouge lobbed a couple of mortars towards the remote base we were operating out of on the northern end of the country. Thank you for sharing.
ReplyDeleteIf you were stationed with the Marine helicopter base at Hawaii, I might of spent time with your guys in Cambodia. Spent a month at a place called Bung Lung (can't remember real name) and used it as our FOB. We would fast rope in and try to cut LZ's so the rest of the team could get in. My best memory of it was when I bounce my machete off a 250 lb bomb and my sphincter was super tight for a few days. Our crowning glory was finally establishing the location of the Viet V2L hospital area (base of the three mountain ridges along the tri-border area. Was a major stopping point along the Ho Chi Minh Trail and at least the last known location of a few MIA's (both military and civilian). Loved working with you guys and received my fast rope training on the way out to the LZ, ended up being a 90 ft slide. Crew and HRST Master sprayed me down with bottled water after we returned. In returned I had a resupply mission from Thailand bring in Dunkin Donuts for them. Think this was either late 94 or early 95. Had to look it up and I was dang close, it was Baah Lung, Northeast Cambodia, and served as logistics area for the trail.
DeleteEchoing what many others have said. Thank you both SmokeyJazz and Irish ... many of us have stories to tell, and it is an honor to share them so that all are remembered. God bless all who have served and all whose families have suffered such a loss in service to our country.
ReplyDeleteJohn 15:13 “Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.”
Best regards.
Chi
A tearful salute to you sie....
ReplyDeleteThank you all for what you do to bring home those still missing. Salute!
ReplyDeleteThank you.
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