Monday, December 6, 2021

A Comment Sends Irish On An Crash Investigation.....

Regarding the car crash,

Anonymous commented:

Where are the skid marks in the second picture. Yes the pov is further right but they should still be visible on the far left of the pic.... 

Here are the pics. My guess is telephoto lens and a slightly different angle.



  

    I decided to hit up google street view to find the distance from the poles and street sign and bill board

in the left hand image. As you can see below that is a looooong way to the building.

He must have been fucking flying. The skid marks start before this sign.

I have circled the sign. The billboard and pole and the other two poles that mark the entrance to

the building.



Alternate view.  You can see the bilboard and poles better here:


Looking at the skidmarks again, they start before the sign and go in between the two poles. In the far lane they appear to straddle the white dotted line directly in front of the second pole near billboard.




Now lt's put it in context from overhead:


Holy shit, that's a loooong way to go and still get air and smash through the building....


250 feet from the pole to the building.




17 comments:

  1. Wow, thank you for the details Irish.

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  2. That was a serious effort at being stupid, aided ably by the addition of drugs and alcohol.
    Stupid should hurt, and that time it did. Very glad no innocent people were hurt.

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  3. I wonder how you would calculate how fast he was going. I understand a lot of factors are involved but maybe just in general.

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    1. How fast?
      They started in Michigan... and crossed state lines!

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  4. Good detective work there young feller. Alcohol AND marijuana at high levels (bad pun) found in what was left of them. I though marijuana made you mellow?

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  5. 67 mph for 250 skid. So maybe 85

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  6. Did anyone notice the name of the road? Maybe they were recreating, albeit in the wrong car, a scene from the movie.

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  7. Too many variables to know the speed without understanding the effective ramp angle, and the height of impact above the takeoff point. I would guess at greater than 85 MPH and up to but here are 2 simplified examples:

    103 MPH horizontal velocity with assumptions including no wind resistance and the following:
    250 ft = distance from takeoff point to house
    20 ft = height of impact above takeoff point
    15 deg = angle of takeoff (effective ramp angle)


    141 MPH horizontal velocity with assumptions including no wind resistance and the following:
    250 ft = distance from takeoff point to house
    20 ft = height of impact above takeoff point
    10 deg = angle of takeoff (effective ramp angle)

    ART

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    1. 20 ft high? That is just incorrect

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  8. Skid marks with anti lock brake systems interesting

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  9. I think the car was accelerating. Skids appear to be just two wheels. If it was braking a skid of that length of should have significantly slowed the car.

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  10. The skid marks are to the left out of the picture. Look at the height and angle of the caution tape.

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  11. I can't determine the elevation differences, so the height may be a combination of an elevation difference (house lower than the road) and a tree with enough give to ramp the car.

    The skid marks look as though the car was not braking, but in an uncontrolled slide.

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  12. Just considering that the skid marks indicate that there was drag on the vehicle, it must have been going outrageously fast to start with, scrub some speed and still achieve the impact.

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  13. But did they have positraction???....can't make those marks without positraction.

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