To some, the older surplus rifles might be too heavy, not "tacticool", and to others they may appear just plain ugly. I, on the other hand, like them for several reasons. They are for the most part reliable. They are simple to shoot, clean, and maintain. Also, they are cheap to "feed". I saw this meme over at WRSA and it prompted me to post. I like shooting older surplus rifles such as the Mosin Nagant 91/30 in the video further down. I have shot them for years. I started my boy shooting long distances in reclaimed strip pits (coal mines) over twenty years ago. With a little training he, as an eight year old boy, could consistently make 800 yard shots on man-sized targets using a Turkish Mauser and 1940's surplus 8mm ammunition. If anyone who is not a shooter is interested in shooting, there are still surplus rifles and ammo available. Sadly the glory days of the early 90's when Turkish Mausers could be purchased for less than $40, K98 German WWII Mausers for $75, and Mosin Nagant 91/30's for $60 are long gone. I did see some 91/30's a few weeks back for around $200 and they are a bargain even at that price. These old war horses can still be found in pawn shops, gun stores, etc. If you are lucky enough to come upon one at a bargain, buy it. I bought two K98 rifles back in '94. I paid $79 each and that included shipping, dealer fee, and taxes. Today, Russian capture K98's with import marks are bringing upwards of $600.00 plus depending on maker, condition, etc. The guy in the YouTube video is dinging steel quite regular at 944 yards with open sights. No one is going to win a "long distance" competition with one of these old guns, but they sure are fun to shoot!