Why not "these windows" because if you know what your doing you choose rooms that can be isolated by a door so the smoke and lead dust can be evacuated out the broken window while that barrel cools. Sustained bunp or auto fire is a messy thing especially with direct gas impingement weapons.
The one room is not connected to the suite. It doesn't make sense that he would go from room to room, dealing with two locked doors, nor does it make sense that he would rent two rooms. Add that to the audio track that suggests two shooters, and the witness who killed his disabled daughter and then committed suicide with a 12 ga shotgun blast to the BACK OF THE HEAD (WTF???), and this whole shooting does NOT pass the smell test! At this point, I am actually considering that this was manipulated in a black op by our own goddamn government to gin up support for gun control.
As it's been reported, the bursts of round lasted longer than a 50 round clip. Unless there were 100 round clips, a fully automatic weapon was used, or there were at least two shooters.
The broken window in the adjoining room points at the two massive jet fuel tanks at the airport right across Giles street from the concert crowd. Paddock tried to buy tracer ammo but store had none. He had more powerful rifles than the .223; is said to have purchase a .308 bolt action on his way to the hotel. It is missing. Several shots were fired at the 110 foot tall tanks, with at least one bullet (caliber unknown) piercing the wall. And his car was full of Tannerite, along with ammonium nitrate. Jet fuel, diesel fuel, and kerosene are all very similar. Diesel and ammonium nitrate is what Timothy McVeigh used for his truck bomb.
Tracer ammo isn't mil-spec incendiary, but those bullets are carrying some kind of burning thing on the back of them. Enough to ignite kerosene at 650 yards?
I'll let you connect the dots. But imagine the carnage of one shooter herding a crowd to one end of the concert lot, away from the stage and perhaps across Giles Street to a "safe" vacant lot, and then having a million gallons or more of fuel burst out from either/both of the two giant tanks and light up via a car bomb less than 200 yards away. Far less distance if you're in that vacant lot already. And the tanks are less than 50 yards in from East Mandalay Bay Road, with nothing other than a minor chain link fence around them. Pull up Google maps and measure things yourself and see.
But oh no, this isn't any kind of terrorism or ISIS driven or anything. Just another lone wolf crazy white guy.
All great points Drew. There hasn't been much in the media about the tanks but I have read other's comments on various blog posts. Your theory isn't unfounded.
Just a quick note: Tannerite IS ammonium nitrate, with very finely powdered aluminum mixed in. It isn't able to explode without being mixed first.
I believe ANFO (ammonium nitrate + fuel oil) requires a very energetic/high order initiator, like a blasting cap. It will not explode with a high velocity bullet, the way Tannerite will.
BTW, I haven't read anything that said the Tannerite had already been mixed. Does anyone know if it was mixed prior to being discovered?
Sorry, I meant to add that I don't know if properly mixed Tannerite can set off ANFO, which has to be mixed as well (not just AN sitting next to some jugs of diesel/kerosene).
Kerosene base jet fuel is a lot less flammable than gasoline. Tracers are NOT incendiary rounds. The likely hood of the fuel tanks igniting is LOW. Go on youtube and look at people shooting gas tanks and propane cylinders, hard to ignite in most cases without an external flame source.
I can light a kerosene lantern with a grill sparker. Don't need an open flame. Will jacketed bullets striking steel make sparks? A couple hundred bullet holes in a tank would leak a fair amount, and a nice burny car bomb striking them at high speed a couple minutes later might finish the job. I have no idea what the overall plan was, or if there was one. And just because there was, it doesn't mean the plan would work. But it might have, and such a plan would explain the other broken window and possible extra people involved. And just like a jihadi to add a suicide car bomb to the mix.
Too many holes in the "official" story, whether it is version 1, 2 3a or 3b. Now add to it the Hotel security guard is being attacked by Political Talking Heads and has gone into hiding or is being hidden or ...... Because his verified timeline version is calling too many "official" items into question.
Myth Busters, way back in 2005 proved Tracers DO NOT cause Gas Tank explosions. Episode 15 is listed as BUSTED and again in Episode 38 it was over tested and found after 74 rounds they got lucky. So it was SEMI-BUSTED after 75 rounds and a fuel tank loaded with holes and vapor everywhere.... not a real test.
Why not "these windows" because if you know what your doing you choose rooms that can be isolated by a door so the smoke and lead dust can be evacuated out the broken window while that barrel cools. Sustained bunp or auto fire is a messy thing especially with direct gas impingement weapons.
ReplyDeleteThat would show the acuity of a professional, which is becoming more of fact than speculation.
DeleteThe one room is not connected to the suite. It doesn't make sense that he would go from room to room, dealing with two locked doors, nor does it make sense that he would rent two rooms. Add that to the audio track that suggests two shooters, and the witness who killed his disabled daughter and then committed suicide with a 12 ga shotgun blast to the BACK OF THE HEAD (WTF???), and this whole shooting does NOT pass the smell test! At this point, I am actually considering that this was manipulated in a black op by our own goddamn government to gin up support for gun control.
ReplyDeleteI might have to go back to maybe at that. I missed where some suites might have adjoing rooms with doors. This still doesn't pass the smell test.
DeleteAs it's been reported, the bursts of round lasted longer than a 50 round clip. Unless there were 100 round clips, a fully automatic weapon was used, or there were at least two shooters.
Delete...Reduces the possibility of a silhouette target...
ReplyDeleteLots and lots we still have to learn on this.
ReplyDeleteThe broken window in the adjoining room points at the two massive jet fuel tanks at the airport right across Giles street from the concert crowd. Paddock tried to buy tracer ammo but store had none. He had more powerful rifles than the .223; is said to have purchase a .308 bolt action on his way to the hotel. It is missing. Several shots were fired at the 110 foot tall tanks, with at least one bullet (caliber unknown) piercing the wall. And his car was full of Tannerite, along with ammonium nitrate. Jet fuel, diesel fuel, and kerosene are all very similar. Diesel and ammonium nitrate is what Timothy McVeigh used for his truck bomb.
ReplyDeleteTracer ammo isn't mil-spec incendiary, but those bullets are carrying some kind of burning thing on the back of them. Enough to ignite kerosene at 650 yards?
I'll let you connect the dots. But imagine the carnage of one shooter herding a crowd to one end of the concert lot, away from the stage and perhaps across Giles Street to a "safe" vacant lot, and then having a million gallons or more of fuel burst out from either/both of the two giant tanks and light up via a car bomb less than 200 yards away. Far less distance if you're in that vacant lot already. And the tanks are less than 50 yards in from East Mandalay Bay Road, with nothing other than a minor chain link fence around them. Pull up Google maps and measure things yourself and see.
But oh no, this isn't any kind of terrorism or ISIS driven or anything. Just another lone wolf crazy white guy.
All great points Drew. There hasn't been much in the media about the tanks but I have read other's comments on various blog posts. Your theory isn't unfounded.
DeleteJust a quick note: Tannerite IS ammonium nitrate, with very finely powdered aluminum mixed in. It isn't able to explode without being mixed first.
DeleteI believe ANFO (ammonium nitrate + fuel oil) requires a very energetic/high order initiator, like a blasting cap. It will not explode with a high velocity bullet, the way Tannerite will.
BTW, I haven't read anything that said the Tannerite had already been mixed. Does anyone know if it was mixed prior to being discovered?
Sorry, I meant to add that I don't know if properly mixed Tannerite can set off ANFO, which has to be mixed as well (not just AN sitting next to some jugs of diesel/kerosene).
DeleteKerosene base jet fuel is a lot less flammable than gasoline. Tracers are NOT incendiary rounds. The likely hood of the fuel tanks igniting is LOW. Go on youtube and look at people shooting gas tanks and propane cylinders, hard to ignite in most cases without an external flame source.
ReplyDeleteI can light a kerosene lantern with a grill sparker. Don't need an open flame. Will jacketed bullets striking steel make sparks? A couple hundred bullet holes in a tank would leak a fair amount, and a nice burny car bomb striking them at high speed a couple minutes later might finish the job. I have no idea what the overall plan was, or if there was one. And just because there was, it doesn't mean the plan would work. But it might have, and such a plan would explain the other broken window and possible extra people involved. And just like a jihadi to add a suicide car bomb to the mix.
ReplyDeleteToo many holes in the "official" story, whether it is version 1, 2 3a or 3b.
ReplyDeleteNow add to it the Hotel security guard is being attacked by Political Talking Heads and has gone into hiding or is being hidden or ...... Because his verified timeline version is calling too many "official" items into question.
Myth Busters, way back in 2005 proved Tracers DO NOT cause Gas Tank explosions.
ReplyDeleteEpisode 15 is listed as BUSTED and again in Episode 38 it was over tested and found after 74 rounds they got lucky. So it was SEMI-BUSTED after 75 rounds and a fuel tank loaded with holes and vapor everywhere.... not a real test.