tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post3592485269536873368..comments2024-03-29T10:14:10.987-04:00Comments on The Feral Irishman: Convention of the States?Irishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09772405362867585844noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post-11734961539996541432014-05-08T12:37:04.839-04:002014-05-08T12:37:04.839-04:00It needs to be made clear that an Article V conven...It needs to be made clear that an Article V convention of States is for the purpose of PROPOSING amendments. It is literally impossible to have a convention of states, and have the constitution scrapped. Again, this is just for PROPOSING amendments. A proposed amendment would still require a separate 3/4 vote to be ratified. <br /><br />Everyone keeps saying we'll hold this convention and it'll be hijacked. No, this is impossible. There is no hijacking of anything with a 3/4 vote. Just like how all 27 amendments were ratified. Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17023603499413391839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post-11277467490757169172014-05-08T12:11:45.836-04:002014-05-08T12:11:45.836-04:00I think based on the comments here, most everyone ...I think based on the comments here, most everyone doesn't understand how an Article V convention is to work, and why it was written into the constitution to begin with. This, by the way, is NOT a constitutional convention. It is a gathering of delegates from the states to PURPOSE amendments. This is no different than the congress putting up an amendment to be voted on, which has happened hundreds of times. I don't understand why there is this illusion that congressmen and senators (whom we always complain about) are some how more virtuous than what convention of states delegates would be?<br /><br />A convention of states for the purpose of proposing amendments is federalism at its finest. It is a banding together of the sovereign states to smack down the out of control federal government. The nay sayers always speak of a run away convention. What do you think is happening now, with business as usual? The federal government has been on a runaway for almost 100 years. "But we just need to elect the right people. Not have a convention of states." Like who?? John McCain? Mitt Romney? Chris Christy? Jen Bush? Give me a break! These main stream establishment types aren't going to change a THING. A convention of states delegate would exist for one purpose. To do the right thing and cast a vote. They aren't beholden to the establishment, re-election efforts, political correctness, the media, back door deals or a good ol' boys club. THIS is why nothing gets done. <br /><br />I'm afraid it's up to us now, to turn things back around. Jefferson and Madison, etc, gave us this power through article V. They put that provision in the constitution for the very reason we are seeing today. In fact, we probably should have been exercising Article V conventions of states at the very beginning of this whole progressive movement. <br /><br />Some also say this is dangerous to start this precedent, because we will lose the second, fourth, and tenth amendments. How? I challenge with that question. Does anyone actually think 3/4 of the states would vote to ratify eliminating amendments from the bill of rights?? Seriously? In a convention of states, each state gets one vote. I'm sorry, but New York and California do not equal 3/4. They equal 1/25.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17023603499413391839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post-28000956261451357532014-05-08T12:10:53.752-04:002014-05-08T12:10:53.752-04:00I'm sorry, but a constitutional convention and...I'm sorry, but a constitutional convention and an Article V Convention of States are two entirely different things. Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17023603499413391839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post-39003310425005446812014-04-21T05:53:35.212-04:002014-04-21T05:53:35.212-04:00The last time it was tried, they trashed the Artic...The last time it was tried, they trashed the Articles of Confederation completely and wrote the Constitution. Do we really want to risk it? I think NOT!RJIIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03200753641660620810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post-56343492380439091902014-04-18T21:13:33.260-04:002014-04-18T21:13:33.260-04:00I think it would be difficult to get 38 states to ...I think it would be difficult to get 38 states to agree on most anything.:)Brock Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11404173139501539265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post-19134205808137260562014-04-18T19:38:17.544-04:002014-04-18T19:38:17.544-04:00FYI, here's a link to the Convention of States...FYI, here's a link to the Convention of States website. Not saying it's good or bad, but <i>something's</i> got to change...<br /><br /><a href="http://conventionofstates.com/frequently-asked-questions/" rel="nofollow">Convention of States</a>CenTexTimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04026518638421849111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post-82518742274194679032014-04-18T17:40:01.802-04:002014-04-18T17:40:01.802-04:00Agree with the above . Could be ugly. IN fact, I s...Agree with the above . Could be ugly. IN fact, I suspect that the lefties are pushing this in an attempt to change many things about the constitution. If they get their way, we will lose the 2nd and the tenth and likely the fourth.<br /><br />Better leave sleeping dogs lie. If there was a will to fix the issues that are enumerated in the article, then we could do it legislatively. <br /><br />B https://www.blogger.com/profile/10586046436233366155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post-63855224804263442722014-04-18T16:18:07.386-04:002014-04-18T16:18:07.386-04:00Don't like the idea of COS at all. Way too eas...Don't like the idea of COS at all. Way too easy to be hijacked and leave us in a worse position.<br /><br />Linked this post and linked to Taxicab Depression.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post-27397818166688093042014-04-18T15:26:23.611-04:002014-04-18T15:26:23.611-04:00I agree also. It won't be Jefferson, Madison,...I agree also. It won't be Jefferson, Madison, Franklin and Mason running it. It will be Alensky, Jerret, Carvil, and Ayers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post-67672805915879294772014-04-18T15:12:55.049-04:002014-04-18T15:12:55.049-04:00Pissed, I agree with Matt. Here is another point o...Pissed, I agree with Matt. Here is another point of view which I tend to believe.<br /><br />http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-365858055267871677.post-19596245561865223732014-04-18T15:06:59.405-04:002014-04-18T15:06:59.405-04:00I'd be very wary of such a convention. I think...I'd be very wary of such a convention. I think the chances are high that it could be hijacked, sort of a frying pan into the fire idea. There are no guarantees that you won't come out of this with a worse deal than when you went in. Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967355941603195101noreply@blogger.com