Dr. Taylor D. Rhodes: Flock cameras are quietly tracking Alabama gun owners: Opinion
On any given Saturday in Alabama, a guy can leave his driveway, gas up, run by the ammo store, spend all morning at the range, and be home for lunch. He hasn't broken any laws or bothered a soul. And in more of our towns than you'd guess, a camera on a pole photographed his truck at every stop and filed the photos in a searchable database owned by a private company in Atlanta. Read more
If this kind of stuff is going on in Alabama, I would assume larger urban areas have higher concentrations of the OPCs (Outdoor Prison Cameras). I live in a remote area or as some say, "in the woods". I'd never dream there was a traffic/flock/opc camera anywhere near me, but even the nearest small town to me has one "redlight camera" on one of the two traffic lights in the entire town. Plan accordingly. There will be an exam at some point.
TERM LIMITS FOR ALLCONGRES PEOPLE SHUT THIS NONSENSE DOWN
ReplyDeleteCut them down. Civil disobedience is not only your right, but your duty.
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DeleteI truly cannot understand the outrage over this. Do you really believe the Ring-like cameras are not available to certain people/entities? How many other security cameras are accessible to government? The location your phone transmits constantly? You know (or should) that your phone does, in fact, listen to you all the time (Siri, Alexa, can you hear me now?) Big brother has been here for some time now and there is no going back. It's sort of like nuclear weapons. It would be great if they did not exist, but they do, so deal with it. Did you ever think that this might be a psyop to let the population think they have won by local governments demanding the removal of them and having the taken down, all the while having the other devices still in place?
ReplyDeleteCell phones you can leave at home. Certain apps you can turn off/block.
DeleteRing cameras are PRIVATE property, Teh Authoritahs can access the recordings only with a warrant, the citizen has the right to say no/delete at any time.
Can you say the same for OPCs?
Toxic Deplorable B Woodman
You are the proverbial frog in the boiling water, and you are exactly the kind of spineless jellyfish government loves.
DeleteWell, there's your solution! Have the Flock people declare they will not release data without a warrant!
DeleteCell phones have TOS agreements you sign up for. Did anyone ask you to sign up for the Flock cameras? My Ring cameras are only accessible by court ordered warrant. The constant surveillance of EVERY FREAKING VEHICLE ON THE ROAD is the problem.
DeleteBirmingham's city council approved a $9.7 million contract last July for more cameras citywide.
ReplyDeleteWho the eff is still finding this shit. I thought Doge shut that down. I guess not
First, there are more than just Flock cameras. Other brands exist, Motorola among them. There are various online maps of camera locations, it is jawdropping to see how many there are by me. They have been quietly going up for a while. The cops love the things and fight removal efforts. They claim to use them only in specific circumstances, but cops have been convicted of also using the databases for stalking and illegal surveillance. (FWIW, I don't necessarily trust the cops to be telling me the truth, either)
ReplyDelete"FWIW, I don't necessarily trust the cops to be telling me the truth, either"
DeleteAlways remember that the cops can lie to you with impunity. However if you lie to the cops, it's a felony. If you lie to the Eff Bee Eye or any other federal law enforcement organization, it's a FEDERAL felony.
As to the cops abusing any technology that comes their way, despite having laws in place to prevent that behavior, just assume that they are because they are. What they do is develop "procedures" to skirt the law all in the name of "public safety".
Nemo
My township meeting this month had a special flock information meeting. I live in rural NJ. Yes, NJ has rural areas, with forests and farms and everyone is a Republican.
ReplyDeleteAnyway they had a State Police detective in to talk and answer questions.It was informative but nobody likes these things. The police can access the ones on public property and the state can access the ones on state property. NJ keeps the data for 3 years.
I'm from a village of around 4-5K in S. Ohio. We just found out they are HERE. Going to be raising hell in Council meetings over this until they are taken down.
ReplyDeleteI thought it was against the law for government to hire companies to do the things they are themselves not allowed to do. This sure smells like that.
ReplyDeleteThey can’t see the darkclad tootoo totin guy 40 yards right angle toit though
ReplyDeleteAh contrair Jefferey in rural areas you will see shorter tapered poles on the sides of state highways with nothing but a “traffic camera” wink wink filming both directions in my neck of the woods. How they transmit data I do not know but I do know there are data centers being built. Look closer as you drive around
ReplyDeleteDo that but also visit deflock.org
DeleteIn the days before all this tech, in the Soviet Union, people who could afford cars were few. Nonetheless, the Soviet police (militsiya) manned tall towers all along the roads noting license plates, direction of travel, and the time, among other data. If the authorities thought someone was doing something fishy, they could check those records to see if a car reached its destination in a reasonable time. If not, they'd investigate why the driver was lagging the appropriate timeline.
ReplyDeleteNow we have militsiya cameras all over the place.
And watch our PO-leece start tagging people that get from Point A to Point B "too quickly".
DeleteBeen waitin for that in one of the most per capita turnpike states for awhile. Think they are a little scared of us going feral.
DeleteWhen the Florida Turnpike first opened (early 60s) they would give you a time stamped ticket at the entrance. When you exited, you turned in the ticket to pay the toll and if you got there too early, FHP would ticket you for speeding.
DeleteOn a trip to upstate NY with my Idaho registered truck & camp trailer, I breezed thru toll gates w/o worrying about optional payment for toll sections. They found me, and I got them paid days later and States away.
ReplyDeleteWorry about the ones you see, but you should also worry and question the ones you don't see. There are hidden cameras everywhere.
ReplyDeleteOn a recent trip to the Orlando area I seen several toll roads now just send the charge your tag number and no toll booth or transponder needed. You could pay less with an account and transponder. Damn near every intersection around here has cameras, with a sprinkling of flocks Annie in Ocala
ReplyDelete"I'd never dream there was a traffic/flock/opc camera anywhere near me"
ReplyDeleteThen you need to pay more attention as you drive and look at the side of the road. They are, literally, everywhere. Some places more than others, but most people cannot drive more than 10- minutes on state or federal roads without passing 1 or more.
A very small community near me has installed OPC's at the city limits of every road entering the town. I know the guy who used to be the Chief and he is a real Richard Cranium as I suspect his replacement is.
ReplyDeleteAlberta has a vote this October on if we should vote to leave Canada.
ReplyDeleteA few weekends ago the seperation side had a huge rally in a little town called Mirror. I was traveling the highway past there. About 3km before town there was a temporary camera system set up and then 3km past the rally they had a second camera setup. They were tracking who traveled that section and who stopped in that area. All without warrants, thanks rcmp for being the liberals jack boots (sarc).
Exile1981
"When a boot is stamping your face, it doesn't matter if it's a left boot or a right boot."
DeleteI keep hearing/reading "by a private company". All communications are held by "private companies" but are still regulated under the 5th Amendment because all government searches are "government searches".
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